It was later also published in Everybody's Songster (1859, Roud ID S187124) and the Old Armchair Songster (1860, Roud ID S302091). 2 (Folkways FW 02321). 99, p. 205) have published a version in their collections as have for example also Cecil Sharp (No. I haven't been able to check these publications and can't say if it's exactly the same text. J. W. Allen (p. 163 & 171) notes that "a similar tune to this occurs in a version of 'Lord Thomas and Fair Ellinor" and again in a version of [...] 'Young Hunting', from the Appalachians", all collected by Cecil Sharp in 1916. Arranged for Baritone Solo and Male Chorus by H. Pierce, London,  J. Was it written by a more or less professional broadside poet for the printer who then threw this piece on the market in hope that the people would pick it up and? Ms. Hester also sang Seeger's version although this was deliberately obscured in the liner notes written by Robert Shelton (as Stacey Wiliams, his pseudonym for these kinds of jobs). But there is also one more anachronism directly taken from Ramsay's "Oh Waly, Waly": "waxes" replaces "groweth". There is a ship an' she sails on the sea In fact it was mostly a compilation of verses from earlier broadsides: at least five of the nine were borrowed from other songs. But it can also be found on some earlier publications. Apparently the relationship between these texts was well known at that time. 69-70 and. The water is G wide and I C can't cross G over. Allen (p. 164) also claims that the tune of a variant called "Deep In Love" - collected by H. E. D. Hammond in Dorset in 1905 (see Broadwood et al. Both songs are modern variants of the same ancient broadside ballad with a little input from another old song-sheet. 56 B, p. 221). 1780; ESTC, But the text of "Oh Waly, Waly" also found a place in the most important antiquarian collections of that time: Thomas Percy's, Towards the end of the century the song was published in all major collections of Scottish songs. His arrangement is still regularly performed by classical singers. A variant of the second can be found in a manuscript from the 1620s (see Child IV,  No. !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=/^http:/.test(d.location)? 1795, Madden Ballads 2-1082, ESTC T198961): In 1905 Folklore collector H. E. D. Hammond noted a song from Jacob Baker in Dorset (Broadwood et al. According to the Book Trade Index there were two printers with that name at that address in Dover. The melody was used for example for teaching the violin (Howe's New Violin Without A Master, 1847, p. 111). Perhaps this was the "original" tune of the song. 3, No. There are some more extant  copies of this song but they were published a little bit later. We again can find the song in different surroundings. The toper's advice. On the other hand it is impossible to say how much he has edited the tunes: Sabine Baring-Gould, parson and squire in a parish in West Devon who started collecting the old songs in the late '80s, included a version with a piano arrangement called "Deep In Love" in his Songs And Ballads Of The West (1891, pp. At first there were the texts of "Oh Waly, Waly, Gin Love Be Bonny" as published by Allan Ramsay and William Thomson in the 1720s as well as some other songs printed on broadsides in the 17th century like "The Seaman's Leave...", "Arthur's Seat Shall Be My Bed" and Martin Parker's "Distressed Virgin". I am inclined to think that they were all applied to the song at a later point,  perhaps by singers who had learned the text from a broadside or chapbook. THE WATER IS WIDE es una canción de Bob Dylan del año 2002, este tema está incluido dentro del disco The Bootleg Series, Vol 5: Bob Dylan Live 1975. Some of them include variant forms of the verse originally starting with "Love is handsome […]" , for example this text from North Carolina from the "first decade of the present century" (Brown 1952, Vol. Polished poetry in the text seems at times to be the work of a highly gifted poet, but actually has evolved through the folk process into one of the most beautiful, remorseful lyric statements in the body of Anglo-American folk song". 1, artwork included. Picking Lillies. 'http':'https';if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src=p+'://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js';fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document, 'script', 'twitter-wjs'); "The Water Is Wide"The History Of A "Folksong"(revised July 2012), "The Water Is Wide" is one of the most popular "Folk songs" today, not at least because of its beautiful tune. Some of the tunes presented here are clearly related to the one published by Johnson in the Scots Musical  Museum, not only Hepple's but also the first strain of Christie's version, the one sent to Baring-Gould by Lady Lethbridge and the one collected by Gardiner in Sussex. The Sailor's Lamentation. The same tune with only two verses can also be found in Sam Henry's Songs of the People (Huntington & Hermann 1990,  p. 383). Tambourine Man’; June 21, 1965, Lyricapsule: Nirvana Drop ‘Bleach’; June 15, 1989, Lyricapsule: Derek and the Dominos’ First Gig; June 14, 1970, This Evening So Soon - Unreleased, Self Portrait, Minstrel Boy - Unreleased, The Basement Tapes, Bring Me a Little Water - Unreleased, New Morning. 1701, see, Nonetheless it seems that the song became very popular. 90), a book published by Ditson in New York and Boston in 1916. But not as deep as the love I'm in. Mr. Worsdale's new lyrics are worth quoting: The tune can also be found in the collections of both major Scottish composers of that time (see Olson, Incomplete Index). It was in effect a new song constructed from relics of two popular songs. The unfortunate swain. 3, No. They are all listed in the, Bruce's address : to which are added, The blue cockade; Sorrow and care; The unfortunate swain, Printed and sold by C. Randall, Stirling, The shady grove. We again can find the song in different surroundings. Although this song wasn't ever released on an album (they released it on a bootleg Dylan played it alot on the Rolling Thunder Revue. 204). This may be the reason that he also used her first verse ("The water is wide..."). Some time between 1907 and 1911 George Butterworth (see, In 1909 George Gardiner collected a tune with one verse from one Thomas Bulbeck, also from Sussex (, The same year Herbert Hughes published in the first volume of his. The tune was used for example by John Gay in his ballad opera Polly (1729, Scene 6, Air 7, tunes, p. 2, No. 1, London, New York & Toronto 1974, Ann Keith, 'Most Suitable For Purposes Of Publication': Cecil Sharp's Folk Song Texts, in: Brio, Vol. A second version of "I'm Often Drunk" is little bit shorter. 19, ESTC T186186, available at ECCO). Interestingly there was no copyright notice in the Folk Songs From Somerset. Lomax' "Love Is Pleasin'" is not so much a "Folk"-version of "Waly, Waly" but a fragment of the broadside song "The Wheel Of Fortune". But that one is completely different from Miss Hoare's. 35C, p. 173;  Sharp Ms.: Two years later Mrs. Mogg sang another version with two different verses (Karpeles, p. 173, Sharp Ms.: This seems to be the earliest of the available extant texts. 81-2). I heard it first from Bob Dylan and Joan Baez who. I leaned my back up against some oak 181/2) - collected 1914 in Nebraska -  shows a quasi-feminist approach: In the same collection we can find a version of "My Blue-eyed Boy" from Nebraska (ca. is available at the, Herbert Hughes, Irish Country Songs. But he also noted that both Mary Sacherly and William Nichols sang the same tune, but the former "with twists" while the latter's was "imperfect". F F F The water is wide and I can't cross over Dm G Neit The first verse about "the ripest of apples" was most likely developed from or inspired by the verse starting with "If love is handsome [...]" in "I'm Often Drunk", the one borrowed from "Oh Waly, Waly". 90-1); one from North Carolina (Brown II, No. 1, Third Edition, Revised, New York & Boston 1831 (available at the, W. H. Logan, A Pedlar's Pack of Ballads and Songs, Edinburgh 1869 (available at, Alan Lomax, The Folk Songs Of North America, New York 1960, The Madden Ballads. The water is wide and I can't cross over Neither have I wings that I could fly Build me a boat that.. (paroles de la chanson The Water Is Wide – BOB DYLAN) Ajouter des paroles. The following text is an attempt at outlining the history and prehistory of "The Water Is Wide". 487-8, in the edition published in 1839): Another version of this song can be found in the Thomas Hepple Manuscript. The oldest has been in use for nearly 400 years  and even the youngest is known for nearly two centuries. From: W. H. Logan, A Pedlar's Pack of Ballads and Songs, Edinburgh 1869, p. 336, source: "In Yon Garden &c.", from James Johnson (ed. Tunes and Songs as Sung by Pete Seeger (Oak Publications, New York 1960). The tune used in his book was the one sent to him by Miss Hoare together with the text quoted above. In this case it has become the starting-point for a new song and has lost all connections to the original ballad. Why were so-called "floating verses" so important for the production of both broadside ballads and "Folk songs"? Here it was still called  "Waly, Waly". Edited and arranged by R. Chignell, London : Ascherberg, Hopwood & Crew, 1935 (see, Waly, waly. For example he – who was a gifted songwriter himself - introduced a consistent rhyme scheme: in all verses it is aabb. 254B, p. 291): It would be worth discussing if the verse about the "little sparrow" is in some way related to the one starting with "the seas are deep" from "I'm Often Drunk". In the same collection we can find a version of "My Blue-eyed Boy" from Nebraska (ca. This strongly suggests that these two editions as well as the two other without an imprint were thrown on the market in the late '10s or during the '20s. In some way he had unwittingly followed the rules of the genre. Variants of the second verse - "Come all ye fair maids, now take a warnin [...]'" - are of course also known from the American song "Fair And Tender Ladies". "Melody in Common Time", words: "The Happy Land" by Isaac Watts, from Joshua Leavitt, The Christian Lyre, Third Edition, Revised, New York 1831. Already in 1803 a fragmentary version consisting of only three verses but including a tune was published by James Johnson in the sixth volume of his, Another version of this song can be found in the Thomas Hepple Manuscript. That means that the fragment collected by Mr. Hughes in Ireland was completed with some of the missing parts from just the right song. II, Edinburgh 1881  (available for download as pdf-files at University of Edinburgh, School of literature, Languages and Cultures, Celtic & Scottish Studies, John Harrington Cox, Folk-Songs Of The South, Cambridge 1925 (available at the, Henry George Farmer, Foreword to Orpheus Caledonius. Both are about love growing cold with the time and offer a similar message although the new variant sounds a little more drastic. : Thomson was a Scottish singer who had moved to London. Bob Dylan 34,775 views 179-180 from the 10th edition, Dublin 1734): In 1733 William Thomson published a second expanded edition of his Orpheus Caledonius. Many thanks  to Stewart Grant who has written about “The Water Is Wide” for my former website and  who encouraged me find out a little more about this song! He tried to put together a "Folk"-version of "Oh Waly, Waly" but the only connection to that old Scottish ballad was that the creators of the two broadside texts themselves had cribbed one respectively two verses from that song. Information: BOB DYLAN-Nowhere To Go Rare Recordings Vol. Now there is one question left. Nor do I think that it qualifies in any way as an offspring of the original tune of the broadside song. (ESTC, After the turn of the century "The Unfortunate Swain" was published in Scotland in at least four different chapbooks. Motherwell (p. 407) claims that this ballad was "frequently sung to the same tune as 'Waly, Waly, Up The Bank'" but the one he has included (p. 421; also Bronson III, No. What was their notion of authenticity? But these two and one more line are also related to "Arthur's Seat Shall Be My Bed" (ca. Third Series by Cecil Sharp and Charles Marson. His, Another version - this time only a text without a tune - was included by Allan Ramsay in the second volume of his immensely influential, In 1733 William Thomson published a second expanded edition of his. His own "Blue-Eyed Boy" as well a variant collected by Paul Brewster are very different from Pound's but have retained this particular verse (see for Brown 1952, dto. 149, pp. Instead the "ivy rock is black as ink". There he was active between 1819 and 1844 (see, Another broadside with this song was published by "Evans Printer, Long-lane, London" (, For example there was one with the songs "Rose of Albion" and "God Save The Queen" (, But it can also be found on some earlier publications. ; Brewster 1940, p. 85, here as "I turn back to my childhood part" [sic!]). This collection was published in London by Simpkin & Co. in 1906 (available at IMSLP, here No. That's the version of the first verse we know today. 1923, pp. A new Song" (London?, ca. Pitts' address on this broadside is "6, Great St. Andrew Street, 7 Dials". Cannot annotate a non-flat selection. Thomas Birt (Harding B 11(1730) & Madden Ballads 6-4172), also from London, started his business around 1824 (see The British Book Trade Index) and in the allegro Catalogue his song-sheet is dated as from "between 1828 and 1829". To my knowledge a verse like this hasn't been part of any song written before that broadside ballad. It was first made up by a writer of broadside ballads and then later edited both by an old lady from Somerset and an academic Folklorist. Bob Dylan - Water Is Wide Chords Learn the song with the online tablature player. Thankfully his manuscripts are now easily available (see Martin Graebe's Guide to the Baring-Gould Manuscripts on his site Songs of the West). I'm not sure how popular this broadside was, I only know of one English and two Scottish prints. His 12-string guitar was always tuned down so that the bass notes were big and round, filling the hall as would a string quartet. Did the author of "Arthur's Seat" borrow these stanzas from "Oh Waly, Waly". 1701, available at NLS: The Word On The Street), another one from this family: Interestingly the first verse here is clearly a variant form of the third in "Oh Waly, Waly" ("O waly, waly, but love be bonnie […]") but this particular version did not survive. Folklorists in the USA have found a lot of variants of a song usually called "Fair And Tender Ladies" or "Little Sparrow" (Roud # 451, see f. ex. The notes (p. xxx) are more or less the same as in the Somerset collection but here Sharp refrained from naming his informant: "O Waly, Waly" was compiled by Cecil Sharp from parts of three different field recordings he had made in Somerset between 1904 and 1906. Ramsay's text was for example included on these two Long song sheets printed some time between 1813 and 1838: A quick search at Copac shows that it was also regularly published in new professional musical arrangements, for example in: And of course it found a place in scholarly publications like The Garland of Scotia. None was indicated on the song-sheet and it was later never published with a melody in a songbook. The only differences to the other texts were that one of the original verses was missing and that the lilies took over the main role in the first verse: Four copies of another edition called "The Maid's Complaint" - also with eight instead of nine verses - can be found among the Madden Ballads (8-5377; 9-5914 & 6132; 10-7033). Third Series (No. Picking lilies. 39, pp. Joan Baez is a cover of Traditional Folk's "The Water Is Wide". Being the second part of The Beggar's opera, 1729, Act 1, Air VII, here p. 19 from an edition published London 1922, source: "Waly,Waly", from William McGibbon, A Collection of Scots Tunes [...] With some Additions by Robert Bremner, London [1768], Book III, p.87, source of image: pdf-file downloaded from IMSLP. One may assume that they both have published this song at around the same time. B. Cramer & Co, 1931 (see, Like Morning Dew. For example there was one with the songs "Rose of Albion" and "God Save The Queen" (Harding B 11(3324)). But generally it seems to me that this imprint was mostly used during the ‘10s and early '20s. Ralph Waldo Emerson included the text in his poetry anthology Parnassus (1875, p. 382). He then compiled his own new "old" song from those fragments and published it as, Waly, waly. Dylan later reported that he had "heard a Scottish ballad on an old 78 record that I was trying to really capture the feeling of, that was haunting me [...] It was just a melody (liner notes to Biograph, 1985). Trad. Sharp, London : Novello and Co, 1943 (see, The best known was of course Benjamin Britten's version that he first published in 1947 in his, The first "Folk"-recording was by singer and dulcimer player Andrew Rowan Summers from Virginia who included "Oh, Waly, Waly" in 1954 for his LP, In fact this song only became "famous" after Pete Seeger had recorded his version in 1958. In fact this is a edited version of the two-verse fragment of "The Unfortunate Swain" collected by Herbert Hughes and published as "Must I Go Bound?" Here's Brown's version A "as sung by a woman in 1907": Of course all these verses are interchangeable, they all fit well into this kind of laments of lost love. You false-hearted young men you know you have deceived me, Oh, love is a teasin' and love is pleasin', She regarded this song as an "enchanting version of 'Waly, Waly'" but in fact it looks more like a fragment of "Love It Is Easin'/Pleasin'/Teasin'" as collected in Britain by Williams, Hammond and Gardiner. starts and ends within the same node. Tune and words collected by C. J. Both Ritchie (p. 18) and Lomax (No. A Musical Wreath of Scotish Song by John Turnball and Patrick Buchan (Glasgow 1841, p. 54), George F. Graham's The Songs of Scotland (1848, Vol. 11, 1867 (available at, Bruce Olson, An Incomplete Index Of Scottish Popular Song And Dance Tunes Printed In The 18th Century, 1998 (available on the late Bruce Olson's, Roy Palmer, Birmingham Ballad Printers, Part Four: V - W (mustrad article, Louise Pound,  American Ballads And Songs, New York 1922 (available at, Frank Purslow, Marrow Bones. The rhyme scheme is inconsistent. 141, p. 422). Here is the text published by W. Armstrong in Liverpool between 1820 and 1824 (Harding B 28(63), at BBO): The editor of this particular text even tried to repair the last verse and introduced an appropriate rhyme. By all accounts "The Unfortunate Swain" remained popular for considerable time. A live recording from the early 60s is available on Very Early Joan (see JoanBaez.com) released in 1982. As noted above Johnson's would be a much more likely candidate for this honor. Build me a boat that can carry two Their song included variants of two verses known from the old Scottish ballad but otherwise the rest of the text and the tune were completely different. by H. M. Belden & A. P. Hudson, Durham 1952 (available at, The Frank C. Brown Collection of North Carolina Folklore, Volume 3: Folk Songs From North Carolina, ed. This was in fact an abbreviated version of the old "Peggy Gordon" with some minor changes but the three verses can also be traced back to the first edition of the British broadside. Cecil Sharp's "Oh Waly, Waly" is the starting-point for the development of the modern "The Water Is Wide". In 1855 the Society of Antiquaries of Newcastle upon Tyne "appointed a committee 'to protect and preserve the ancient melodies of Northumberland'". Of course we don't know if she made it up herself or if she learned it that way from someone else: In 1906 Cecil Sharp decided to retain the first two lines sung to him by his informant. by R. Redman from collected version by C. J. )", collected by H.E.D.Hammond 1905 from Jacob Baker, Dorset, in: Broadwood et al. A variant form of this stanza was used for a broadside ballad called "The Complaining Lover - A New Song" (ca. 1857 online available at, "The Prickly Rose", from William Christie , Traditional Ballad Airs, Vol. There it apparently became not only the precursor of "Peggy Gordon" but also one of the sources for the songs of the type "Fair And Tender Ladies/Little Sparrow". "Deep In Love", from Sabine Baring-Gould & Henry Fleetwood Shepard, Songs And Ballads Of The West: A Collection Made From The Mouths Of The People, London 1891, No. Otherwise he obviously refrained from major revisions. 1, 1743, p. 5, available at the Internet Archive). The reference to Dublin in the fifth verse suggests a connection to Ireland. Instead the variant later used in "I'm Often Drunk" ("Love is handsome, love is pretty […]") prevailed and started  a life on its own, both as a floating verse and as the lead stanza for new songs. In another song from West Virginia called "Youth And Folly" we find variant forms of three verses known from "Peggy Gordon". Nor do we know the tune originally used for this text. One version (text A) was sent to him by Miss Octavia L. Hoare, a correspondent from Cornwall. This is just a preview! Although this song wasn't ever released on an album (they released it on a bootleg Dylan played it alot on the Rolling Thunder Revue. 5, 1797, No. Bob Dylan (born Robert Allen Zimmerman on May 24, 1941 in Duluth, Minnesota, United States) is an American musician, poet and artist whose position in popular culture is unique. "Forsaken Lover. & M. Robertson, Saltmarket, Glasgow, An excellent new song, called, Esk mill : To which are added, The ship in distress. 9 Market Place, Dover" (Madden Ballads 11-7451) . A Collection of Scots songs Set to Music by William Thomson, Two Volumes in One, Reprint of  Second Edition, first published 1733, Hatboro PA 1962, Albert Friedman, The Penguin Book of Folk Ballads of the English Speaking World, New York 1977 (first published 1956), J. Bob Dylan. The new queen had been separated from her husband for a long time but she was still very popular in England and was  received with great entusiasm. The collectors found them among the "Folk" either in fragmentary versions of this particular broadside text or as floating verses in all kinds of different songs and then secured their subsequent survival. These two songs must have been written at the time of her return. 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